{"id":11365,"date":"2024-07-16T12:00:01","date_gmt":"2024-07-16T12:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/16\/interviews-narrative-nonfiction-reconstruction\/"},"modified":"2025-02-14T17:24:21","modified_gmt":"2025-02-14T17:24:21","slug":"interviews-narrative-nonfiction-reconstruction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/16\/interviews-narrative-nonfiction-reconstruction\/","title":{"rendered":"A spotlight on the art of the interview"},"content":{"rendered":"    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">Interviewing for narrative is like hunting for something in a pitch-black warehouse with nothing more than a flashlight. It\u2019s a good flashlight \u2014 with a head you can twist to change the shape and range of the beam. Even so, finding what you\u2019re looking for takes time and a deliberate process.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>First, you need the wide beam to scan the room. The light is diffuse, so the details are fuzzy, but &nbsp;you can see enough to get your bearings. It\u2019s not strong enough to illuminate the other side of the room, so you move slowly and methodically, sweeping the beam back and forth, as if painting the room with light.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>With some combination of luck and skill, your beam passes over a shape that appears to be what you\u2019re looking for. You move closer, zeroing in, to see if it is what you think. You twist the lens of the flashlight to tighten the beam. It gets brighter, more like a laser. Now you can focus on the fine details as the rest of the room fades to black.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>When you find the thing you\u2019ve been looking for \u2014 a pivotal moment, scene, detail, dialogue, telling detail, and so forth \u2014 you know it right away. But you need at least another dozen such things, all of which fall into the category of, \u201cYou know it when you see it.\u201d The search can feel tedious and inefficient. It takes time, tenacity and patience.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>In nearly three decades of journalism, including an undergrad and a master\u2019s, I have never taken a class or workshop that focused exclusively on interviewing, and certainly not on the particular demands of interviewing for stories rather than news reports. They exist, at least in a few places, but when I needed them most, I didn\u2019t know how to find them \u2014 or how much I could have learned.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-spacer mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"block block-legacy-page-blocks legacy-page-blocks  \">\n\n    <h2 class=\"legacy-page-blocks-subhead\">The art of the narrative interview<\/h2>\n\n    <div class=\" legacy-page-blocks-text\">\n            <p>Introduction:\u00a0News interviews vs story interviews<\/p>\n<p>Phase I:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/18\/interview-story-pitch-character-prereporting\/\">Pre-interviewing for the pitch<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Phase II: <a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/19\/narrative-interviewing-nonfiction-journalism-story-arc-character\/\">Interviewing for story arc<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Phase III: <a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/24\/nonfiction-journalism-books-structure-organizing-scenes\/\">Interviewing for sequence<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Phase IV: <a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2024\/07\/25\/interviews-narrative-nonfiction-cinematic-scenes-details\/\">Interviewing for scene<\/a><\/p>\n\n    <\/div>\n\t\n<\/div>    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-spacer mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Now, after three narrative non-fiction books and many long-form magazine features, I\u2019ve become keenly aware that interviewing for different kinds of pieces requires different approaches, skills, relationships and rhythms.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>This becomes especially important when doing \u201creconstructed narratives\u201d \u2014 stories about past events that you can\u2019t witness in person. Vivid and credible reconstruction is fundamental to most narrative journalism, from magazine pieces to books and even when putting an immediate situation in the fuller context of time. Immersive reporting relies on observed scenes; fuller-sweep or explorations of past events are built from \u201creconstructed scenes.\u201d<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Every narrative writer has their own unique process. But after talking to a number of writers who specialize in narrative, I believe there\u2019s a general progression: From broad and open-ended to narrow and specific.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>In my own work and in the narrative nonfiction courses I teach, I\u2019ve broken the process into four primary (but multi-faceted) stages or phases:<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-list mb-4 list max-w-screen-full mx-auto pl-5 \">\n            \n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/stories\/interview-story-pitch-character-prereporting\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Pre-interviewing to find and focus a viable story idea<\/a>, identify a central character and gather needed information for a solid pitch<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/stories\/narrative-interviewing-nonfiction-journalism-story-arc-character\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Interviewing to outline the narrative arc and tension of a story<\/a>, with a focus on the struggle or obstacle the central character faced<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/stories\/nonfiction-journalism-books-structure-organizing-scenes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Interviewing for sequence to build a timeline<\/a>&nbsp;of pivotal moments and scenes that follows a character or situation from complication through plot points and tension to resolution<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/stories\/interviews-narrative-nonfiction-cinematic-scenes-details\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Interviewing for scenes<\/a>&nbsp;with a distinct point-of-view and camera lens (zooms in and out) to build cinematic structure and detail<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>In four posts to come, I explore each of these in detail, with examples from my work and that of some narrative masters.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core 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