{"id":15541,"date":"2025-05-30T13:12:43","date_gmt":"2025-05-30T13:12:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/?p=15541"},"modified":"2025-05-30T13:37:56","modified_gmt":"2025-05-30T13:37:56","slug":"pee-wee-herman-love-letter-documentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2025\/05\/30\/pee-wee-herman-love-letter-documentary\/","title":{"rendered":"How a love letter becomes a documentary (and vice versa)"},"content":{"rendered":"    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p id=\"block-b0f3d0ee-7b8d-477d-a807-ab5314f45fc5\"><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/about\/subscribe-to-nieman-storyboard\/\"><em>Sign up for the Nieman Storyboard newsletter,<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;delivered every Friday in your inbox.<\/em><\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\" id=\"block-24e811f0-7054-42f8-932b-b92190df7146\">***<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Dear Storyboard community,&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Like any good Gen X-er whose childhood was filled with quotes like <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/7eTl05KHwFI?si=1uUuoTnN_l0LmrDU&amp;t=90\">&#8220;I&#8217;m a loner, Dottie, a rebel,&#8221;<\/a> I spent the past weekend deeply absorbed in the new HBO documentary, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=jVx74C-RGDw\">&#8220;Pee-wee as Himself,&#8221;<\/a> a moving, heartbreaking, and funny portrait of an artist (Paul Reubens) who wholly inhabited a character (bow-tied &#8217;80s film and TV icon Pee-wee Herman) and then had his real life exposed to public scrutiny, starting with a 1991 arrest at an adult theater in Florida. (He pleaded no contest to an indecent exposure charge.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Notably for journalists and storytellers, the film offers a revealing meta-narrative, in the form of Reubens (playfully?) sparring with director <a href=\"https:\/\/mattwolf.info\/\">Matt Wolf<\/a>, evading questions, and arguing over control of the story \u2014&nbsp;and at one point halting the project entirely. All the while, Reubens hadn&#8217;t told Wolf or the producers that he was battling cancer. He died in July 2023, shortly before the filmmaker&#8217;s last interview with Reubens was to take place.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>On camera, the push-and-pull between the filmmaker and his subject makes it clear that each needs the other to bring the project to fruition. For New York magazine, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/matt-wolf-pee-wee-herman-as-himself-documentary-paul-reubens.html\">Wolf wrote about how the film came together<\/a> (and then didn&#8217;t, and then did). Here&#8217;s how it starts:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-quote mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>When I approach someone to make a documentary about them, I write a love letter. In the 20 years I\u2019ve been making films, I\u2019ve written countless ones \u2014 to Siegfried &amp; Roy, to Marianne Williamson, to soap-opera stars and reclusive musicians. Sometimes I\u2019m appealing to their vanity, sometimes their sense that they\u2019ve been wronged. Always, I end my letters with the same sentence: \u201cTrust shouldn\u2019t be expected. It needs to be earned.\u201d<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>And documentaries, Wolf writes, require a level of collaboration that can go much deeper than what&#8217;s required from a regular interview subject:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-quote mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>The dynamic between a documentarian and a subject is tricky. The relationships are more collaborative than people might expect because we documentary filmmakers don\u2019t just need access. We invade the lives of private people with equipment and a crew, and we take their personal photos to scan and digitize. We ask subjects to sign release forms that grant us permission to use their life as the raw material for our work. Paul and I were bonding, but we were also working out how to get what we needed from each other.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Trust is hard-earned in any relationship, let alone in the practice of journalism. It also takes time: Reubens sat for 40 hours of interviews and the film took four years to complete. Even then, Wolf writes, &#8220;I remember confiding to [Reubens&#8217;s longtime assistant Allison Berry] about my struggles with Paul. &#8216;I think he trusts me,&#8217; I said tentatively. &#8216;Or maybe he doesn\u2019t, and that\u2019s okay,&#8217; she said.&#8221; The result is a beautiful love letter to an artist who deserved, and got to have, the last word.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-heading   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2025\/05\/30\/bloomberg-private-prison-immigrant-detention\/\">Behind the Scenes: Bloomberg examines a private detention center and a town &#8216;Addicted to ICE&#8217;<\/a><\/h2>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-image mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2025\/05\/30\/bloomberg-private-prison-immigrant-detention\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"655\" src=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-1024x655.jpg\" alt=\"The Torrance County Detention Facility in Estancia, N.M. (AP Photo\/Andres Leighton)\" class=\"wp-image-15552\" style=\"width:646px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-1024x655.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-300x192.jpg 300w, https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-768x491.jpg 768w, https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-1536x982.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2025\/05\/AP22272718092151-2048x1310.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Torrance County Detention Facility in Estancia, N.M. (AP Photo\/Andres Leighton)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Bloomberg reporters Rachel Adams-Heard, Polly Mosendz, and Fola Akinnibi looked at local government agreements with U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to detain immigrants in New Mexico.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>[<a href=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2025\/05\/30\/bloomberg-private-prison-immigrant-detention\/\">Read the story<\/a>]<\/strong><\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-heading   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Links of note <\/h2>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-list mb-4 list max-w-screen-full mx-auto pl-5 \">\n            \n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/hashtag\/1000wordsofsummer\">#1000WordsofSummer<\/a> starts tomorrow: Over the past eight years, author Jami Attenberg has created a beloved community and tradition for writers to motivate each other to write 1,000 words a day for two weeks. \u201cThrough this project people have: made friends, built cohorts and writing groups, finished proposals and entire books, sold and published those books, and in fact written all kinds of things, but perhaps most importantly, <em>found their voices<\/em>. I hope that it ends up being meaningful for you in one way or another.\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/1000wordsofsummer.substack.com\/p\/how-to-prep-for-1000wordsofsummer-e01\"> This year\u2019s session runs from May 31-June 13<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/continuous-wave.beehiiv.com\/p\/listening-is-the-hardest-art-74dab76e628f2589?_bhlid=bf9c48d94cecb4877b350b94c11817c7e6f2ec64&amp;utm_campaign=listening-is-the-hardest-art&amp;utm_medium=newsletter&amp;utm_source=continuous-wave.beehiiv.com\">&#8220;Listening is the hardest art.&#8221;<\/a> Julia Barton (2024 Nieman Fellow) chats with <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/death-sex-money\/id870688022\">&#8220;Death, Sex, and Money&#8221;<\/a> host <a href=\"https:\/\/annasale.com\/\">Anna Sale<\/a> about the life of radio pioneer Mary Margaret McBride, who hosted live interview shows starting in the 1930s. Sale relates her own lessons from both live interviews and edited podcast conversations: &#8220;When you are a live interviewer, you have less control over the pacing of how things unfold. So you have to be a more assertive conductor.&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In news from Harvard, President Alan Garber <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/live\/wFIo795BXb4?si=FM3zcay9jSPbSDgx&amp;t=5480\">received a standing ovation<\/a> at Thursday\u2019s graduation ceremony when he reaffirmed the university&#8217;s commitment to international students in the face of attacks from the Trump administration: &#8220;Welcome, members of the Class of 2025, from down the street, across the country, and around the world. Around the world, just as it should be.&#8221; As Nieman Foundation Curator <a href=\"https:\/\/mailchi.mp\/harvard\/nieman-to-nieman-covering-the-race-to-the-white-house-4754875?e=241a588f74\">Ann Marie Lipinski shared last week<\/a>: &#8220;Since 1952 when the first international fellows arrived in Cambridge, journalists from around the world have played a vital role in the success and vitality of the Nieman Foundation. Two years ago, in welcoming a reporter from Cambodia, the Nieman family swelled to 100 countries. 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