{"id":2187,"date":"2021-09-10T12:00:01","date_gmt":"2021-09-10T12:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2021\/09\/10\/tracking-shards-of-grief-for-20-years-and-daring-to-love-your-story-subjects\/"},"modified":"2024-10-29T21:01:38","modified_gmt":"2024-10-29T21:01:38","slug":"tracking-shards-of-grief-for-20-years-and-daring-to-love-your-story-subjects","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/2021\/09\/10\/tracking-shards-of-grief-for-20-years-and-daring-to-love-your-story-subjects\/","title":{"rendered":"Tracking shards of grief for 20 years, and daring to love your story subjects"},"content":{"rendered":"    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">Stories about grief can shape themselves into as many forms as grief itself. And when grief is multiplied by several people and 20 years, it splinters and reforms again and again.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, people found ways to share their own grief and that of others in stories as apt as they were inventive. In an Esquire piece, Scott Raab chronicled the new World Trade Center&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.esquire.com\/news-politics\/a2952\/rebuilding\/\">as it rose to the sky;<\/a>&nbsp;Alissa Torres wrote a book of her grief as&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.alissatorres.com\/\">a 9\/11 widow<\/a>; The New York Times<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.nytimes.com\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/us\/sept-11-reckoning\/portraits-of-grief.html\">&nbsp;published portraits<\/a>&nbsp;of victims \u2014 how one had trained his dalmatian to \u201cstop, drop and roll\u201d as a way to teach schoolchildren fire safety, how another would bundle up warmly and travel far and wide to stargaze.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-image mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/niemanstoryboard.org\/app\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JenniferSenior-2-e1729090209751-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10007\" style=\"width:200px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jennifer Senior<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Now, as the 20<sup>th<\/sup>&nbsp;anniversary of the attack approaches,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/jennifersenior.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jennifer Senior<\/a>&nbsp;of The Atlantic gives us a multi-charactered portrait that reinforces how grief doesn\u2019t always follow a predictable path; it may veer in unexpected directions or shed one shape for another.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/magazine\/archive\/2021\/09\/twenty-years-gone-911-bobby-mcilvaine\/619490\/\">\u201cWhat Bobby McIlvaine Left Behind\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;\u2014 which appeared online earlier this month and can be read in the September issue of the print magazine \u2014 portrays those closest to McIlvaine, a bright and charismatic 26-year old, and who have been separately grieving their shared loss these 20 years.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>It begins as a portrait, of sorts, of the last of the many diaries and notebooks that Bobby kept through the years. The partly-filled diary was a memento that, Senior wrote, \u201cglowed with more meaning than the others\u201d after Bobby was gone. From there, the story fans out to sit with Bobby\u2019s father, Bob Sr., who delves into a blizzard of research and conspiracy theories about 9\/11, with overflowing files and pin-dotted maps; his mother, Helen, whose grief diverges from her husband\u2019s, and becomes open and forgiving with time; his brother, Jeff, who is determined to live a full and good life in Bobby\u2019s honor; and Bobby\u2019s girlfriend, Jen, who suddenly found the world an \u201cuntrustworthy place.\u201d Jen has kept Bobby\u2019s last diary for herself all these years, despite repeated requests from Helen to let her see it.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Then there\u2019s Senior herself, who had known and cared for Bobby; he roomed with her brother in college. Since his death, she stayed in touch with the McIlvaines and, as she writes, came to love them. That closeness helped her establish trust when she decided to pursue the family\u2019s story. But it also proved a freighted responsibility, particularly when she got Jen to share the diary and discovered that a life-affirming quote attributed to Bobby was based on a misreading.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>The story delivers a deep emotional impact, not just because of its reporting rigor or Senior\u2019s skill in turning a phrase, such as her description of Bobby\u2019s journal-loaded desk as \u201ca study in plate tectonics.\u201d Those facets increase its power. But it also hits hard because Senior weaves character profiles and relationships with a meditation on grief. The story is a philosophical accomplishment as much as a technical one.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Senior doesn\u2019t shy away from sharing, in the story, what she learned through her reporting. For example, she notes, \u201cWe are always inventing and reinventing the dead,\u201d something said to her by a friend who helped explain the relationship between lost loved ones and their survivors. Elsewhere she writes, \u201cOur minds truly have minds of their own\u201d when addressing the quicksilver nature of traumatic memories.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>In a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jenseniorny\/status\/1424719300716290055?lang=en\">Twitter thread devoted to the story<\/a>, Senior said she purposely included some of what she learned about \u201clove, grief and the stories we all need.\u201d<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Senior was just as generous in responses to questions from Storyboard about the reporting and writing process, exploring on the subject of grief, and ending with&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mentalfloss.com\/article\/507311\/8-surprising-literary-easter-eggs\">\u201can Easter egg\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;for attentive readers. Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><strong>Idon\u2019t know if every journalist has this experience, but for me, it\u2019s the closest stories \u2014 the struggling neighbor, the weird happening down the street \u2014 that sometimes go unnoticed. Knowing the McIlvaines as you do, when did you begin thinking of their story as one you wanted to tell?<br><\/strong>It\u2019s a good question. So many of the best pieces are hiding in plain sight.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>I guess I first started thinking about the McIlvaines\u2019 story in November of 2018.&nbsp;Thanksgiving was approaching, and everyone was resuming that dopey, tiresome conversation about how to make it through a meal with your Trump-loving uncle without firing small cannonballs&nbsp;of stuffing at him. It suddenly occurred to me that tolerating this kind of momentary discomfort was really nothing compared to what&nbsp;Helen Mcllvaine had to tolerate in her own marriage every single day. But for a variety of reasons, I never pursued it.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>But this year, on the 20th anniversary, I decided to try. Then my mind turned to the diary, as it still sometimes did; For years, I\u2019d been obsessed with it, just as Helen was. But I never thought of making a journalism project out of recovering it, probably because it\u2019s not the kind of story I do. I\u2019m very old-school, trained to be an observer, not a character or agent in a piece.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>I somehow&nbsp;got over my hesitation, I think because I\u2019d become a devotee of a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/gimletmedia.com\/shows\/heavyweight\">podcast called \u201cHeavyweight.<\/a>\u201d If you haven\u2019t listened to it, drop what you\u2019re doing and go do so \u2014 it\u2019s phenomenal. The host, Jonathan Goldstein, is basically in the closure business, resolving one ancient question or conflict per episode:&nbsp;<em>Why did those girls dump me in middle school all those years ago? Why did my favorite babysitter stop showing up? Why did Moby never thank me for introducing him to Alan Lomax\u2019s \u201cSounds of the South,\u201d especially when sampling them made him famous? And can I get that damn box set of CDs back?&nbsp;<\/em>And then I realized:&nbsp;Oh, this is a written version of \u201cHeavyweight.\u201d I\u2019m going to try to recover that diary after 20 years.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><strong>Please describe the reporting and writing process \u2014 how long it took, and any specific challenges you had to solve to fashion the story into its eventual form.<br><\/strong>I did the story (for me, anyway) in record time. I got the green light on April 12, sat down for my first interview with the McIlvaines on April 17, and handed in a draft of the story on Saturday, June 12. After that it didn\u2019t change all that much, but we spent another three and a half weeks fact-checking and line-editing. It shipped on July 8.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>The main challenge was finding a through line that connected the story\u2019s many disparate parts. I knew I had to write thousands and thousands of words about how differently Helen and Bob Sr. were grieving, for example, before I even got to the contents of the diary, whose&nbsp;recovery I\u2019d used as a plot device. How on earth was I going to sustain everyone\u2019s interest for that long? And how was the McIlvaines\u2019 suffering connected to the recovery of that diary, anyway? So I was terribly anxious for a while about making sure that there were hidden, interlocking themes throughout.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-pullquote mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>The main challenge was finding a through line that connected the story\u2019s many disparate parts.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Because I know and love the McIlvaines, I also faced a terrible dilemma when I (or rather, my very astute editor,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SStossel?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Scott Stossel)<\/a>&nbsp;discovered that Bobby hadn\u2019t written something the family assumed, for 20 years, that he had\u2014 \u201cLife Loves On.\u201d Those three words were of tremendous importance to them,&nbsp;words so plump with significance that Bob Sr. got them tattooed on his upper arm. How was I supposed to break it to them?&nbsp;<em>Was<\/em>&nbsp;I supposed to break it to them? I mean, this was the personal diary of a civilian, not the Pentagon Papers. I lived in terror that sharing this news would be shattering, which in hindsight was a little na\u00efve. What was shattering was losing their son. And they were so grateful I\u2019d gotten the diary and found other beautiful gems in there that this misreading mattered less than I thought it did.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>How did your connection to the McIlvaines affect your reporting? Did it make it easier, or more difficult (or maybe both)? Did you or they set any conditions on interviews beforehand?<br><\/strong>On balance, knowing them was definitely more of an advantage than a disadvantage, because the&nbsp;McIlvaines immediately trusted me. But Jesus, what do you&nbsp;<em>do<\/em>&nbsp;with that trust? I wanted to make sure they never, ever felt like it was misplaced, or like I was punishing them for speaking so openly about their suffering. At the same time, I didn\u2019t want to minimize their marital differences (which I don\u2019t think I did) or somehow give the impression that I, like Bob Sr., thought the government was behind 9\/11 (I most certainly do not). But if I learned&nbsp;anything from Helen, it\u2019s that you can feel heaps of affection for someone and still openly&nbsp;disagree with him or her.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>I also learned something kind of profound from this experience: If you aren\u2019t profiling a person in power or, you know, a serial killer, why&nbsp;<em>not<\/em>&nbsp;treat that subject like someone you love? People are much more open with you, and become much more themselves, if they\u2019re speaking from a place of comfort and security, rather than fear.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-pullquote mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>If you aren\u2019t profiling a person in power or, you know, a serial killer, why\u00a0<em>not<\/em>\u00a0treat that subject like someone you love?<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>The McIlvaines placed zero conditions on my interviews. Quite the contrary: Because I knew them, I felt like I had to remind them from time-to-time that the tape recorder was running. Especially with Helen. She and I can talk uninterrupted for days.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><strong>In an&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/newsletters\/archive\/2021\/08\/the-mcilvaine-familys-struggle-to-make-sense-of-911\/619708\/\"><strong>excellent interview with Caroline Mimbs Nyce<\/strong><\/a><strong>&nbsp;for Atlantic readers earlier this month, you talk about what this story taught you about grief. Is there anything you learned during your reporting that may help other journalists who are interviewing or interacting with those who are grieving?<br><\/strong>Yes. Don\u2019t ask anything insanely stupid like I did, which was, \u201cWho in your family do you think is furthest along in processing their grief?\u201d It was a horrifying question, idiotic and insensitive in every possible way, because it implies that some people are better at grieving than others, or there\u2019s one right way to metabolize grief, or that it\u2019s some kind of moral failing if you\u2019re still grieving when others aren\u2019t, or that you\u2019re grieving differently, etc.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>And I think it\u2019s worth repeating what I said to Caroline: Grieving is idiosyncratic. Expect anything and everything from someone who\u2019s grieving. And it\u2019s a tyranny to tell someone to get over it, or past it, or through it, whatever. Some people spend their whole lives inhabiting their sadness.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>This story is packed with details, from a dive into 9\/11 conspiracy theories to cameos by Rudy Guiliani and Kobe Bryant. But I never felt unmoored. How did you figure out the structure?<br><\/strong>I wish I could say that the structure was a series of conscious decisions. But it was the product of thousands of unconscious ones \u2014 instincts forged over time from lots of feature-writing experience. (I just turned 52, which still looks like some kind of error.) I knew I wanted to open with a close-up shot of the diary, and the foreshadow that recovering it would drive the plot. I knew the next section would be the traditional nut graf stuff \u2014 my explaining that I knew this family, and that everyone in it grieved differently. I knew the next section had to be about Bobby himself, so that everyone would be invested in him as a character and understand exactly who the McIlvaines had lost. And one night at 4 a.m., I realized I wanted to start that section with \u201c<em>Tell me about your son<\/em>,\u201d which I\u2019d later put in context. And I wanted to end it&nbsp;with another Easter egg, in the form of Bobby castigating me years ago for concluding all of my stories with a quote. From then on, I knew where the exit was: A quote from Bobby\u2019s diary. And shrewd readers knew to look for it.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>It took me some time to figure out how to make that exit, by the way. Turned out I needed to do it in italics&nbsp;for it to register.<\/p>\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-classic mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n\n\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"  core-block\">\n        <div class=\"block block--core block--core-paragraph mb-5   max-w-screen-full mx-auto\">\n            \n<p>Then it just became a question of telling everyone\u2019s story. It was my editor, Scott Stossel, who suggested that I plant two more teasers about the diary into the piece\u2014 one in the stretch about Bob Sr. and one in the stretch about Helen \u2014 so that readers would never lose sight of it. He was absolutely right. 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